FISA from Denial On the Potomac
This morning, Diane found an excellent recount of the problems with the FISA legislation envisioned by the war criminals in power. On the other side of the nation, we encountered the other pole.
WaPo's editorial board denies reality again, insisting that FISA can be decided by this bipartisan fiction they cling to, despite constant vetoes from the occupied White House.
The most important consideration is whether there is searching, robust court review of the surveillance and procedures to minimize the invasion of Americans' privacy rights, whether that comes before or after the surveillance has been launched. The Senate and House should work with the administration to achieve that result. They would be wise to do so soon, before the current set of surveillance orders begins to expire in August, so that lawmakers do not find themselves once again legislating these complex issues in haste.
And a few intelligent comments:
Lstosp wrote:
"... preventing a future administration from repeating this administration's warrantless wiretapping."
And why oh why, do you believe that we should excuse the President for knowingly and blatantly ignoring the 4th amendment, the FISA law?
Let's start spreading democracy and the rule of law right here in America by demonstrating that NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!!
Prosecute and impeach.
as901 wrote:
How can we compromise our Constitution? Our leaders are telling us that they are being kind enough to allow us to keep a small part of the Bill of Rights!
They are ignoring one thing. The US Constitution may not be amended unless the amemndment is ratified by all 50 states! Since that has not been done, none of these laws are legal!
Mark Heinemann
and excuse me, my own comment.
jocabel wrote:
The congress should work with the administration, this editorial concludes. That is impossible, in the case of the current administration, which has in this and many other legislative proposals laid down a base line which it will not move from. Why WaPo editorialists refuse to acknowledge simple and observable truths in order to make up reasonable sounding editorials is puzzling, and has destroyed the newspaper's credibility.
The change in administrations which is coning up is the only chance any sound proposals have for enactment. If McCain gets in, we can expect more of the same, however.
Thank heavens, WaPo comments continually reassures me, Americans are not deluded. We know the crimes of this worst administration in history can never be justified. Now as Avedon says, we need to keep pushing our representatives to refuse immunization for those crimes. We are the real power, and have to use it.
WaPo's editorial board denies reality again, insisting that FISA can be decided by this bipartisan fiction they cling to, despite constant vetoes from the occupied White House.
The most important consideration is whether there is searching, robust court review of the surveillance and procedures to minimize the invasion of Americans' privacy rights, whether that comes before or after the surveillance has been launched. The Senate and House should work with the administration to achieve that result. They would be wise to do so soon, before the current set of surveillance orders begins to expire in August, so that lawmakers do not find themselves once again legislating these complex issues in haste.
And a few intelligent comments:
Lstosp wrote:
"... preventing a future administration from repeating this administration's warrantless wiretapping."
And why oh why, do you believe that we should excuse the President for knowingly and blatantly ignoring the 4th amendment, the FISA law?
Let's start spreading democracy and the rule of law right here in America by demonstrating that NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!!
Prosecute and impeach.
as901 wrote:
How can we compromise our Constitution? Our leaders are telling us that they are being kind enough to allow us to keep a small part of the Bill of Rights!
They are ignoring one thing. The US Constitution may not be amended unless the amemndment is ratified by all 50 states! Since that has not been done, none of these laws are legal!
Mark Heinemann
and excuse me, my own comment.
jocabel wrote:
The congress should work with the administration, this editorial concludes. That is impossible, in the case of the current administration, which has in this and many other legislative proposals laid down a base line which it will not move from. Why WaPo editorialists refuse to acknowledge simple and observable truths in order to make up reasonable sounding editorials is puzzling, and has destroyed the newspaper's credibility.
The change in administrations which is coning up is the only chance any sound proposals have for enactment. If McCain gets in, we can expect more of the same, however.
Thank heavens, WaPo comments continually reassures me, Americans are not deluded. We know the crimes of this worst administration in history can never be justified. Now as Avedon says, we need to keep pushing our representatives to refuse immunization for those crimes. We are the real power, and have to use it.
Labels: Disinformation, the Press
posted by Ruth at 3:19 PM
1 Comments:
Very correct, Ruth. I've been saying for a couple of years now (and, thankfully, the NYT is somewhat better on this) that way too many editorials have taken the line, "We would hope that Mr. Bush would have the good sense to do the right thing and...", when he has never shown either the slightest ability or inclination to do so.
He's a nasty, petty, petulant little thug, a four-year-old with noo-kyu-lar weapons, and "being reasonable" is out of the question here. And what Fred Hiatt, and apparently most of the Republican party and far too many of the Democratic party, don't seem to grasp is that this is precisely why we have laws that apply to everybody. And it's fricking well past time we started enforcing them on the lawbreakers. That would be BushCo.
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